Mil 3.3.2
2. Question on the Earliest Point
2. Purimakoṭipañha
from: Examination Chapter
2. Question on the Earliest Point
The king asked: “Venerable Nāgasena, concerning that which you said, ‘No earliest point can be discerned,’ please give me an analogy for that.” “Just as, your majesty, a man might put a small seed in the ground, then it having produced a sprout and having gradually undergone increase, growth, and full maturity, it would ripen into fruit. Then again having taken from that a seed and cultivated it, then it having produced a sprout and having gradually undergone increase, growth, and full maturity, it would ripen into fruit. Is there thus an end to this continuity?” “There is not, venerable sir.” “In the same way, your majesty, no earliest point of transmigration time can be discerned.”
“Give me another analogy.” “Just as, your majesty, an egg might be produced from a hen, a hen from that egg, and an egg from that hen, and so on. Is there thus an end to this continuity?” “There is not, venerable sir.” “In the same way, your majesty, no earliest point of transmigration time can be discerned.”
“Give me another analogy.” The elder drew a circle on the ground and said to King Milinda, “Is there an end to this circle?” “There is not, venerable sir.” “In the same way, your majesty, these cycles spoken of by the Blessed One, ‘Dependent on the eye and form, eye consciousness arises, and the meeting of the three is contact. From the condition of contact there is feeling, from the condition of feeling there is craving, from the condition of craving there is clinging, from the condition of clinging there is kamma, and again the eye is born from kamma.’ Is there thus an end to this continuity?” “There is not, venerable sir.”
“‘Dependent on the ear and sound … Dependent on the mind and thought, mind consciousness arises, and the meeting of the three is contact. From the condition of contact there is feeling, from the condition of feeling there is craving, from the condition of craving there is clinging, from the condition of clinging there is kamma, and again the mind is born from kamma.’ Is there thus an end to this continuity?” “There is not, venerable sir.” “In the same way, your majesty, no earliest point of transmigration time can be discerned.”
“You are clever, Venerable Nāgasena!”
Question on the Earliest Point second
2. Purimakoṭipañha
Rājā āha— “bhante nāgasena, yaṁ panetaṁ brūsi ‘purimā koṭi na paññāyatī’ti, tassa opammaṁ karohī”ti. “Yathā, mahārāja, puriso parittaṁ bījaṁ pathaviyaṁ nikkhipeyya, tato aṅkuro uṭṭhahitvā anupubbena vuḍḍhiṁ virūḷhiṁ vepullaṁ āpajjitvā phalaṁ dadeyya. Tato bījaṁ gahetvā puna ropeyya, tatopi aṅkuro uṭṭhahitvā anupubbena vuḍḍhiṁ virūḷhiṁ vepullaṁ āpajjitvā phalaṁ dadeyya. Evametissā santatiyā atthi anto”ti? “Natthi, bhante”ti. “Evameva kho, mahārāja, addhānassāpi purimā koṭi na paññāyatī”ti.
“Bhiyyo opammaṁ karohī”ti. “Yathā, mahārāja, kukkuṭiyā aṇḍaṁ bhaveyya, aṇḍato kukkuṭī kukkuṭiyā aṇḍanti. Evametissā santatiyā atthi anto”ti? “Natthi, bhante”ti. “Evameva kho, mahārāja, addhānassāpi purimā koṭi na paññāyatī”ti.
“Bhiyyo opammaṁ karohī”ti. Thero pathaviyā cakkaṁ likhitvā milindaṁ rājānaṁ etadavoca— “atthi, mahārāja, imassa cakkassa anto”ti? “Natthi, bhante”ti. “Evameva kho, mahārāja, imāni cakkāni vuttāni bhagavatā ‘cakkhuñca paṭicca rūpe ca uppajjati cakkhuviññāṇaṁ, tiṇṇaṁ saṅgati phasso, phassapaccayā vedanā, vedanāpaccayā taṇhā, taṇhāpaccayā upādānaṁ, upādānapaccayā kammaṁ, kammato puna cakkhuṁ jāyatī’ti. Evametissā santatiyā atthi anto”ti? “Natthi, bhante”ti.
“‘Sotañca paṭicca sadde ca …pe… manañca paṭicca dhamme ca uppajjati manoviññāṇaṁ, tiṇṇaṁ saṅgati phasso, phassapaccayā vedanā, vedanāpaccayā taṇhā, taṇhāpaccayā upādānaṁ, upādānapaccayā kammaṁ, kammato puna mano jāyatī’ti. Evametissā santatiyā atthi anto”ti? “Natthi, bhante”ti. “Evameva kho, mahārāja, addhānassāpi purimā koṭi na paññāyatī”ti.
“Kallosi, bhante nāgasenā”ti.
Purimakoṭipañho dutiyo.