Mil 3.1.3
3. Investigating Question
3. Vīmaṁsanapañha
aus: Great Chapter
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3. Investigating Question
The king asked, “Venerable Nāgasena, will you converse with me?” “If, your majesty, you will converse in the speech of wise people, I will converse, however, I will not do so if you converse like a king.” “How, Venerable Nāgasena, do wise people converse?” “In a conversation among wise people, your majesty, both a summing up and an unravelling are made, a refutation and a redress are made, an assertion and a counter-assertion are made, and wise people do not become angry because of that. That is the way, your majesty, wise people converse.” “Then how, venerable sir, do kings converse?” “In a conversation, your majesty, kings assert some point of view, and for the one who disputes that view, they order punishment, saying ‘Punish that person.’ That is the way, your majesty, kings converse.” “I will converse, venerable sir, in the speech of wise people, not in the speech of kings. May the venerable one converse freely just like he does with a bhikkhu, a novice, a lay supporter, or with a monastery attendant. May the venerable one converse freely and not be afraid.” The elder approved, saying “It is well, your majesty.”
The king said, “Venerable Nāgasena, I will ask.” “Ask, your majesty.” “You have been asked by me, venerable sir.” “It has been answered, your majesty.” “Then, what has been answered by you, venerable sir?” “Then, what has been asked by you, your majesty?”
Investigating Question third
3. Vīmaṁsanapañha
Rājā āha— “bhante nāgasena, sallapissasi mayā saddhin”ti? “Sace tvaṁ, mahārāja, paṇḍitavādaṁ sallapissasi sallapissāmi, sace pana rājavādaṁ sallapissasi na sallapissāmī”ti. “Kathaṁ, bhante nāgasena, paṇḍitā sallapantī”ti? “Paṇḍitānaṁ kho, mahārāja, sallāpe āveṭhanampi kayirati, nibbeṭhanampi kayirati, niggahopi kayirati, paṭikammampi kayirati, vissāsopi kayirati, paṭivissāsopi kayirati, na ca tena paṇḍitā kuppanti, evaṁ kho, mahārāja, paṇḍitā sallapantī”ti. “Kathaṁ pana, bhante, rājāno sallapantī”ti? “Rājāno kho, mahārāja, sallāpe ekaṁ vatthuṁ paṭijānanti, yo taṁ vatthuṁ vilometi, tassa daṇḍaṁ āṇāpenti ‘imassa daṇḍaṁ paṇethā’ti, evaṁ kho, mahārāja, rājāno sallapantī”ti. “Paṇḍitavādāhaṁ, bhante, sallapissāmi, no rājavādaṁ, vissaṭṭho bhadanto sallapatu yathā bhikkhunā vā sāmaṇerena vā upāsakena vā ārāmikena vā saddhiṁ sallapati, evaṁ vissaṭṭho bhadanto sallapatu mā bhāyatū”ti. “Suṭṭhu, mahārājā”ti thero abbhānumodi.
Rājā āha— “bhante nāgasena, pucchissāmī”ti. “Puccha, mahārājā”ti. “Pucchitosi me, bhante”ti. “Visajjitaṁ, mahārājā”ti. “Kiṁ pana, bhante, tayā visajjitan”ti? “Kiṁ pana, mahārāja, tayā pucchitan”ti.
Vīmaṁsanapañho tatiyo.