Mil 3.2.3
3. Knowledge and Wisdom Question
3. Ñāṇapaññāpañha
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3. Knowledge and Wisdom Question
The king asked: “Venerable Nāgasena, for one in whom knowledge has arisen, would wisdom also have arisen?” “Yes, your majesty, for one in whom knowledge has arisen, wisdom also has arisen.” “What, venerable sir, is knowledge the same as wisdom?” “Yes, your majesty, knowledge is the same as wisdom.” “Then, venerable sir, for one in whom knowledge has arisen which is the same as wisdom, would he be confused or would he not be confused?” “He would be confused in some instances, your majesty, and would not be confused in other instances.” “When, venerable sir, would he be confused?” “He would be confused, your majesty, concerning those aspects of a craft that he did not know before, or those directions in which he has not gone before, or those names and designations he has not heard before.” “When, venerable sir, would he not be confused?” “He would not be confused, your majesty, concerning that which he has discerned by wisdom, that is, the notions of impermanent, suffering, and not self.” “Then where, venerable sir, does his confusion go?” “Confusion ceases, your majesty, at that very moment when knowledge arises.”
“Please give me an analogy.” “Just as, your majesty, some person might bring in a lamp to a dark house, then the darkness ceases, and light appears. In the same way, your majesty, at the moment when knowledge arises, right there confusion ceases.”
“Then where, venerable sir, does wisdom go?” “Wisdom, your majesty, ceases right there having done its task, but that understood by wisdom, the notions of impermanent, suffering, and not self do not cease.”
“Venerable Nāgasena, what you have just said, ‘Wisdom ceases right there having done its task, but that understood by wisdom, the notions of impermanent, suffering, and not self do not cease,’ please make an analogy for that.” “Just as, your majesty, some person, wishing to send a letter at night, would summon a scribe and light a lamp, and have the letter written. Then, when the letter is written, he would extinguish the lamp. And when the lamp is extinguished the letter would not be destroyed. In the same way, your majesty, wisdom ceases right there having done its task, but that understood by wisdom, the notions of impermanent, suffering, and not self do not cease.”
“Give me another analogy.” “Just as, your majesty, people in the eastern districts might set up five water pots in each house so as to extinguish any burning, and when a house is on fire, they would throw these five pots of water on top of the house, then the fire would be extinguished. Would it occur to these people, your majesty, ‘We must make use of these pots again’?” “Certainly not, venerable sir, those pots have done their job, what further need would there be for them?” “As, your majesty, are the five pots of water, so the five faculties of faith, energy, mindfulness, concentration, and wisdom are to be seen. As those people, so the spiritual practitioner is to be seen. As the fire, so the defilements are to be seen. As the fire is extinguished by the five pots of water, so the defilements are extinguished by the five faculties, and those extinguished defilements do not arise again. In the same way, your majesty, wisdom ceases right there having done its task, but that understood by wisdom, the notions of impermanent, suffering, and not self do not cease.”
“Give me another analogy.” “Just as, your majesty, a doctor, having taken the five root medicines and approached a sick person, might crush the five root medicines and get the sick person to drink them, and the sickness would disappear. Would it occur to that doctor, your majesty, ‘I will make use of the five root medicines again’?” “Certainly not, venerable sir, those five root medicines have done their job, what further need would there be for them?” “As, your majesty, are the five root medicines, so the five faculties of faith, energy, mindfulness, concentration, and wisdom are to be seen. As the doctor, so the spiritual practitioner is to be seen. As the disease, so the defilements are to be seen. As the sick person, so the common person is to be seen. As the disease of the sick person is expelled by the five root medicines such that when the disease is expelled the sick person becomes well, so the defilements are expelled by the five faculties, and those expelled defilements do not arise again. In the same way, your majesty, wisdom ceases right there having done its task, but that understood by wisdom, the notions of impermanent, suffering, and not self do not cease.”
“Give me another analogy.” “Just as, your majesty, a warrior, skilled in battle, having taken five arrows and entered into battle in order to defeat an opposing army, and gone into battle he might let fly those five arrows, and the opposing army is destroyed by them. Would it occur to that warrior, skilled in battle, your majesty, ‘I will make use of these five arrows again’?” “Certainly not, venerable sir, those five arrows have done their job, what further need would there be for them?” “As, your majesty, are the five arrows, so the five faculties of faith, energy, mindfulness, concentration, and wisdom are to be seen. As the warrior, skilled in battle, so the spiritual practitioner is to be seen. As the opposing army, so the defilements are to be seen. As the opposing army is destroyed by the five arrows, so the defilements are destroyed by the five faculties, and those destroyed defilements do not arise again. In the same way, your majesty, wisdom ceases right there having done its task, but that understood by wisdom, the notions of impermanent, suffering, and not self do not cease.”
“You are clever, Venerable Nāgasena!”
Knowledge and Wisdom Question third
3. Ñāṇapaññāpañha
Rājā āha— “bhante nāgasena, yassa ñāṇaṁ uppannaṁ, tassa paññā uppannā”ti? “Āma, mahārāja, yassa ñāṇaṁ uppannaṁ, tassa paññā uppannā”ti. “Kiṁ, bhante, yaññeva ñāṇaṁ sāyeva paññā”ti? “Āma, mahārāja, yaññeva ñāṇaṁ sāyeva paññā”ti. “Yassa pana, bhante, taññeva ñāṇaṁ sāyeva paññā uppannā, kiṁ sammuyheyya so, udāhu na sammuyheyyā”ti? “Katthaci, mahārāja, sammuyheyya, katthaci na sammuyheyyā”ti. “Kuhiṁ, bhante, sammuyheyyā”ti? “Aññātapubbesu vā, mahārāja, sippaṭṭhānesu, agatapubbāya vā disāya, assutapubbāya vā nāmapaññattiyā sammuyheyyā”ti. “Kuhiṁ na sammuyheyyā”ti? “Yaṁ kho pana, mahārāja, tāya paññāya kataṁ ‘aniccan’ti vā ‘dukkhan’ti vā ‘anattā’ti vā, tahiṁ na sammuyheyyā”ti. “Moho panassa, bhante, kuhiṁ gacchatī”ti? “Moho kho, mahārāja, ñāṇe uppannamatte tattheva nirujjhatī”ti.
“Opammaṁ karohī”ti. “Yathā, mahārāja, kocideva puriso andhakāragehe padīpaṁ āropeyya, tato andhakāro nirujjheyya, āloko pātubhaveyya; evameva kho, mahārāja, ñāṇe uppannamatte moho tattheva nirujjhatī”ti.
“Paññā pana, bhante, kuhiṁ gacchatī”ti? “Paññāpi kho, mahārāja, sakiccayaṁ katvā tattheva nirujjhati, yaṁ pana tāya paññāya kataṁ ‘aniccan’ti vā ‘dukkhan’ti vā ‘anattā’ti vā, taṁ na nirujjhatī”ti.
“Bhante nāgasena, yaṁ panetaṁ brūsi ‘paññā sakiccayaṁ katvā tattheva nirujjhati, yaṁ pana tāya paññāya kataṁ “aniccan”ti vā “dukkhan”ti vā “anattā”ti vā, taṁ na nirujjhatī’ti, tassa opammaṁ karohī”ti. “Yathā, mahārāja, yo koci puriso rattiṁ lekhaṁ pesetukāmo lekhakaṁ pakkosāpetvā padīpaṁ āropetvā lekhaṁ likhāpeyya, likhite pana lekhe padīpaṁ vijjhāpeyya, vijjhāpitepi padīpe lekhaṁ na vinasseyya. Evameva kho, mahārāja, paññā sakiccayaṁ katvā tattheva nirujjhati, yaṁ pana tāya paññāya kataṁ ‘aniccan’ti vā ‘dukkhan’ti vā ‘anattā’ti vā, taṁ na nirujjhatī”ti.
“Bhiyyo opammaṁ karohī”ti. “Yathā, mahārāja, puratthimesu janapadesu manussā anugharaṁ pañca pañca udakaghaṭakāni ṭhapenti ālimpanaṁ vijjhāpetuṁ, ghare paditte tāni pañca udakaghaṭakāni gharassūpari khipanti, tato aggi vijjhāyati, kiṁ nu kho, mahārāja, tesaṁ manussānaṁ evaṁ hoti ‘puna tehi ghaṭehi ghaṭakiccaṁ karissāmā’”ti? “Na hi, bhante, alaṁ tehi ghaṭehi, kiṁ tehi ghaṭehī”ti? “Yathā, mahārāja, pañca udakaghaṭakāni, evaṁ pañcindriyāni daṭṭhabbāni saddhindriyaṁ vīriyindriyaṁ satindriyaṁ samādhindriyaṁ paññindriyaṁ. Yathā te manussā, evaṁ yogāvacaro daṭṭhabbo. Yathā aggi, evaṁ kilesā daṭṭhabbā. Yathā pañcahi udakaghaṭakehi aggi vijjhāpīyati, evaṁ pañcindriyehi kilesā vijjhāpiyanti, vijjhāpitāpi kilesā na puna sambhavanti. Evameva kho, mahārāja, paññā sakiccayaṁ katvā tattheva nirujjhati, yaṁ pana tāya paññāya kataṁ ‘aniccan’ti vā ‘dukkhan’ti vā ‘anattā’ti vā, taṁ na nirujjhatī”ti.
“Bhiyyo opammaṁ karohī”ti. “Yathā, mahārāja, vejjo pañcamūlabhesajjāni gahetvā gilānakaṁ upasaṅkamitvā tāni pañcamūlabhesajjāni pisitvā gilānakaṁ pāyeyya, tehi ca dosā niddhameyyuṁ, kiṁ nu kho, mahārāja, tassa vejjassa evaṁ hoti ‘puna tehi pañcamūlabhesajjehi bhesajjakiccaṁ karissāmī’”ti? “Na hi, bhante, alaṁ tehi pañcamūlabhesajjehi, kiṁ tehi pañcamūlabhesajjehī”ti? “Yathā, mahārāja, pañcamūlabhesajjāni, evaṁ pañcindriyāni daṭṭhabbāni saddhindriyaṁ vīriyindriyaṁ satindriyaṁ samādhindriyaṁ paññindriyaṁ, yathā vejjo, evaṁ yogāvacaro daṭṭhabbo. Yathā byādhi, evaṁ kilesā daṭṭhabbā. Yathā byādhito puriso, evaṁ puthujjano daṭṭhabbo. Yathā pañcamūlabhesajjehi gilānassa dosā niddhantā, dose niddhante gilāno arogo hoti, evaṁ pañcindriyehi kilesā niddhamīyanti, niddhamitā ca kilesā na puna sambhavanti. Evameva kho, mahārāja, paññā sakiccayaṁ katvā tattheva nirujjhati, yaṁ pana tāya paññāya kataṁ ‘aniccan’ti vā ‘dukkhan’ti vā ‘anattā’ti vā, taṁ na nirujjhatī”ti.
“Bhiyyo opammaṁ karohī”ti. “Yathā, mahārāja, saṅgāmāvacaro yodho pañca kaṇḍāni gahetvā saṅgāmaṁ otareyya parasenaṁ vijetuṁ, so saṅgāmagato tāni pañca kaṇḍāni khipeyya, tehi ca parasenā bhijjeyya, kiṁ nu kho, mahārāja, tassa saṅgāmāvacarassa yodhassa evaṁ hoti ‘puna tehi kaṇḍehi kaṇḍakiccaṁ karissāmī’”ti? “Na hi, bhante, alaṁ tehi kaṇḍehi, kiṁ tehi kaṇḍehī”ti? “Yathā, mahārāja, pañca kaṇḍāni, evaṁ pañcindriyāni daṭṭhabbāni saddhindriyaṁ vīriyindriyaṁ satindriyaṁ samādhindriyaṁ paññindriyaṁ. Yathā, mahārāja, saṅgāmāvacaro yodho, evaṁ yogāvacaro daṭṭhabbo. Yathā parasenā, evaṁ kilesā daṭṭhabbā. Yathā pañcahi kaṇḍehi parasenā bhijjati, evaṁ pañcindriyehi kilesā bhijjanti, bhaggā ca kilesā na puna sambhavanti. Evameva kho, mahārāja, paññā sakiccayaṁ katvā tattheva nirujjhati, yaṁ pana tāya paññāya kataṁ ‘aniccan’ti vā ‘dukkhan’ti vā ‘anattā’ti vā, taṁ na nirujjhatī”ti.
“Kallosi, bhante nāgasenā”ti.
Ñāṇapaññāpañho tatiyo.